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A topic by Azalyne Studios (Aly) created Jun 22, 2024 Views: 14,465 Replies: 202
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Does the matchmaker approve of you? Gossip away!

idk if this counts as spoilers or not so I'm gonna ask here, but can anyone tell me the stat bonuses you get for the backgrounds and romances? I want to plan the Optimal Build for my self-insert sheltered princess play-through lol

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For those who don't want to discover them all yourself:

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Backgrounds:

Widow gives cunning / Princess gives etiquette / Scholar gives academics / Countess gives self defense / Court Lady gives politics / Pirate gives courage

People:

Ria gives charm / Emmett gives eloquence / Gisette/Jarrod ending gives manipulation / Gisette gives beauty / Woodly gives poise / Lisle gives history / Clarmont gives people knowledge / Hamin gives leadership /  Ana gives grace / Lyon gives intelligence Zarad gives charisma / Jasper gives insight / Penelope gives *small) charm and (small) people / Cordelia gives (small) ettiquite and grace / Ava gives small intelligence and manipulation 

YESSSS thank you so much Aly!!! now to plan this out hehe

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Wait I have a quick question! Do we only get the manipulation bonus if we get a romance with Gisette and political marriage with Jarrod then? Do we also get the beauty bonus for Gisette in this path? Or am I misunderstanding something

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the bonuses are unlocked at the same time as the epilogues as per a backer choice there is a special ending/epilogue/path that involves romancing both siblings a variation of the political marriage Jarrod and romance gisette - the bonus and epilogue are different for the special epilogue and gisette’s normal epilogue so you will have do both to get all the bonuses

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PHEW okay!!! Gonna have to work for my perfect princess route... but it'll all be worth it in the end!!!

oh wait (so sorry for all the questions jvffdv I'm sure you're really busy, thank u so much for the answers I super apprecaite it!) so does Jarrod have a romance bonus then? I only saw the Gisette bonus, then the Jarrod/Gisette bonus in your first reply

Developer

No you were right the first time, I confuzzled myself. Jarrod's bonus is only available with the special Gisette/Jarrod epilogue. For...reasons.

Fascinating... I'll have to get to work to see it all :3c hehehe

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I just noticed, but no bonuses for Sayra? Is it because how hard she can be to befriend, so the reward is just managing it at all??

yeah I thought there would be a boost for each character... I spent many hours trying to get lord blains route for his boost in the 1.0 version to discover that it wasn't me but the game. Maybe because her say's route doesn't really have much character development, as the interactions are very very brief, compared to the other characters.

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Man I messed up, I decided to play evil and romancing Jarrod... And now he hates my guts and I'm waiting for the family to just push me off a cliff. Oooooppppssss

OOP... evil plans Foiled. Is this like, if you romance him as evil by default? I wouldn't think being evil would be a problem for Jarrod... perhaps you're too much of a girlboss for him to control? XD

It was going fine until the Matchmaker made her speech and now he's all "You made another choice you hussy!" Wait what?

OHHHH this is after the interview where you choose your romance partner right? Matchmaker won't let you choose Jarrod cuz he sucks lol, you have to reassure him after her speech that you choose him and he'll calm down. Unless it's a bug, because if you didn't choose a different romance partner then you should be able to tell him you chose him despite what the matchmaker said.

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Yeah I only had the ability to tell him let's be friends. It may have been on my part that happened since I am not using a guide so I just might not have the points.

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Been awhile since I've done this, but I think when you're talking with the matchmaker you have to keep arguing with her and insisting you want Jarrod. I think if you agree with her the game assumes you mean it.

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Best feeling in this game: Impressing the matchmaker the second time as a sheltered princess.

Is Jasper and MC's marriage supposed to have a insurmountable gulf/distance even when completing the Historian quest line? I did his romance both completing and not completing the quest line and they were the same AFAIK. 

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More hints at what’s going on there while playing as a historian (not yet in the game) otherwise there’s still things you don’t know about Jasper/the isle even if you get married 

That makes sense. Thank you! The game is phenomenal.

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<3

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Just started week 5 on my first run cuz I've been busy, and idk why but I decided to play a Hise MC and romancing Ria. And I gotta be honest when I saw that "don't worry sweetheart" option I swooned... I might be a little in love with my Hise MC lol. I'm glad I made this my first playthrough, it's fitting I start with wlw seeing as it's pride month hehe... maybe I'll romance Gisette next and then Ana. Ladies first!

Alsooo I have a question if anyone can answer- can I get the best ending with Ria's romance if I politically marry Zarad (p sure he's an option, I've never actually played through a political path in my demo files ahaha) or do I get to marry her if I stay single and then kidnap her and bring her back to Hise?

EDIT: I avoided setting up a marriage and I got the scene where Hise MC asks Ria to marry her!!! I'm so happy aaaaaa

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Does anyone know what stats I need to win the trial? I failed skill checks and then missed too many clues even though I investigated everything I could.  It's just too sad to fail that girl. I must start over.

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This guide goes over everything for week 4, it'll show you what you need to clear the trial: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yjMV_WC3uevdsybfZXdRU0Sj2dBhVUcLEu9axLx06n8/...

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Oooh thanks! I need the guides to help me marry the insane prince and see just how much I can mess things up *evil cackling*

Thank you! That is so helpful!

Oh my goodness, thank you for saving this! You can use Wayback Machine to see the other weeks in Piratepad too, it's a lifesaver!

yeah it's a really good thing this got backed up and I remembered to bookmark them lol, I would be at a total loss if I hadn't (no matter how many times I run through this game, I forget what exactly the best options are... too much to remember)

Has anyone managed to unlock the special Avalie epilogue yet? I was at max respect with her by the end of the game, and got her breakfast scene, but only got Penelope's and Cordelia's special epilogues in the end. Is max friendship a requirement for this ending? (I was at ~80%)

Developer

Avalies epilogue requires more than just friendship but other things as well. She’s a trixy one <3

Can we get a hint? I thought maybe she needs a specific outcome at the epilogue but I got a whole bunch of them and it doesn't seem so.

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There are two more conditions than just her friendship. (She's by far one of the hardest epilogues to get.) One involves making sure Jiyel gets the best possible ending and the other involves convincing her of something difficult before negotiations ^ . ~

Hmm, I'm not sure it's working as intended? I definitely convinced her of the difficult thing on most of my playthroughs, and I think I managed the best Jiyel ending on some of those too, but I'm not sure about that (how can I know?) and I've still never triggered her epilogue.

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I've definitely gotten it on my test runs, so I know it's possible. You will know for sure if you are getting all legendary outcomes because there is a special epilogue for achieving that. (and another special epilogue for achieving that and getting jasper's epilogue)

All right, thanks for letting me know! I'll work at it some more. :)

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I just double checked - there's two achievements that will help you know if you are on the right path - there's an achievement with Avalie in week six and an achievement for getting all legendary outcomes in week seven (there aren't any achievements for individual legendary outcomes, just all of them)

Thanks, it's definitely the legendary outcomes that I'm missing, then. I'll see if I can manage to unlock that on my next playthrough!

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hey FearfulSymmetry, sorry to bother you but I've been genuinely struggling for 3 days (I'm not joking) to get Avalie's ending. I've coem to the conclusion that I need to get the Jiyle x Arland legendary ending. If you have some advice for me on how to achieve these ending. 

You'll recieve

(+∞ my gratitude) (legendary btw)

(-10000 rivalry with me) (ik, i kinda feel a rage against you because u have gotten the Jiyle ending)

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I was a widow who got with Emmett and threw the trial.  He dumped me later and never married. No one wanted me after that.

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IM HOWLING I JUST GOT TO THE ENDING SLIDES AND ANA ALSO MARRIED HER MAID AAAAAA she and my Hise MC are too alike lmaooo, they see pretty girl they take her home

Oh gods, what??? That's amazing, how did it happen??? The only marriages in my epilogues (other than my MCs') were the political ones, so I'm extra curious now :D

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I'm not sure! Maybe it only happens if the Hise MC kidnaps and marries Ria. Since Ana went and did the same thing.

Awww. I love that for Ana, she deserves the happiest of endings :D

Screaming crying throwing up I hope it's just a bug and I didn't mess something up my darling Ria is unhappyyyyy I was so enjoying her and my Hise MC Katrina's romance... I thought I did everything correctly too... sadge sadge sadge

I guess this is my punishment for not being very persuasive and refusing to give in to Gisette so Revaire got f*cked and the isle went poof... also wtf was up with that? I know theres hints to the isle having some weirdness to it but honestly this is some straight up magic lol

Not sure if it's a bug, but I brokered peace in Revaire in one of my endings and the isle epilogue still said that Katyia's peace had ended and that the isle/the natives vanished. So might not depend on the Revaire ending?

To be fair to my pirate's uh... "skills" in manipulation and general persuasiveness, it makes sense that Revaire fell and that would break the peace and the isle disappeared. I did however broker peace and prosperity in every other country so it was odd that it was considered a total fail of a summit. Sure it wasn't perfect and therefore the final summit, but everyone aside from Revaire did pretty good for themselves! I don't actually know if it has anything to do with the Ria Romance Fail, I'm pretty sure I did everything right in her romance so it's probably bugged.

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There are conflicting factions in the Isle and an increasingly powerful one is looking for any excuse to get out of the deal with Katyia.

So in order to keep the summits going you need to get good ends or better *everywhere*. 

Revaire gives you two options however, a good peace outcome or a good rebel outcome. 

And good outcomes aren't just not bad endings, they need to be one of the top two of five possible. <3

Does this mean that it’s impossible to keep the summit going in the Jarrod+Gisette route? It’d make sense if that was the case, just wondering!

Also, is it possible to get a good peace end for Revaire without romancing Gisette as well? (MEGA SPOILERS BELOW)

I ask because I did an ending where there was an unprecedented era of cooperation for all the countries, and the people of Revaire plus Clarmont were happy and safe, but Sayra was unhappy and plotting to assassinate a certain someone later (the Isle still vanished here, so I think I still got a bad ending for Revaire). I’m guessing the best peace end would have the MC there as well to help Sayra so that she wouldn’t suffer too much?

Developer

It is possible to achieve a good peace end without romancing Gisette, but it's definitely one of the hardest things to do.

I... can't remember if it's possible to get a peace ending while married to Jarrod.  Not on his full path, but maybe possible on his political marriage route? But I do know that siding with the Revaire Royals will always make future summits impossible.

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There was in fact a bug making Ria's good endings fail to trigger, not your fault! It will be fixed in the next version thanks <3

OH OOP ignore my other reply then!!!! and YAAAAAAAY I'll be waiting with bated breath!!! thank u Aly!!!

Anyone else wonder just WHAT is up with poor Estelle being hated on by Gisette? Did she dump her? Accidentally insult her on day one? Just happened to fall in love with a guy that happened to be on Gisette's shit list so it's not really about her?

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I'm assuming Gisette wanted Aldaric to marry a certain person/marry on her terms for politically motivated reasons, and Estelle wasn't a good match for that. And since he was already breaking a lot of the "rules" to keep in good graces with the current Revaire royals, well...

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HI ME AGAIN I'm here to weep at the bad end for Revaire with Clarmont fucking DYING... I mean of course the bad end would result in that, but the one ending slide where it's like "well you couldn't exactly keep being friends with Clarmont on account of him being dead. which you had a hand in. you weak un-manipulative LOSER" (not exactly those words of course but may as well be BECAUSE I DESERVE IT)

uwaahhhh I'm so sorry Clarmont I promise I'll do better next time ToT

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I felt bad when I decided to side with the royals (due to not having been able to chose the other side) but at the same time I'm kind of happy that while the ending is sad it also kind of gives the country a little bit of peace? Ok so it was 10 years of bloodshed and people we loved died but hey no more civil war! *sips tea in unethical*

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Honestly I felt kinda vindicated seeing that Jarrod and Gisette were completely miserable. Clarmont and Mrs. White may have died, but at least those two are suffering like they deserve. My pirate may have ruined things for Revaire by virtue of being unpersuasive/manipulative, but at least she ruined things for EVERYONE, not just the rebels

Jarrod and Gisette are miserable, but people are not killing one another in the streets. Perfect ending for my super unethical lady who still cares about things such as taking care of her land and not dying.


My ethical Revaire widow is next and I'm hoping she's as much a hoot as last time I played her....

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Holy crap me tooooooo. He broke up with me and then wouldn't tell me anything and then fucking bit it. (I figured it out on subsequent efforts and it was wonderful though! <3)

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Hello! I was wondering...I got the romance ending for Jasper (or well I assume marrying him is the romance ending) and the allies achievement for Avalie, but for some reason I didn't get a boost for them? Are there no bonuses for doing those things or are the boosts for them triggered from something else? I hope that is play to ask! ;A;/

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boosts require unlocking the epilogue - which generally requires best possible endings for the character

by any chance, might you be able to hold my hand through this or giving us some kind of vague guide to point us in the right direction by any chance? I really want to full comp the game but unfortunately nowadays with my job i don't have as much time to commit to hours of gaming as I used to so any help would be super awesome ;A;/

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Jasper's epilogue is one of the hardest things to achieve in the game - you not only have to succesfully romance him (a challenge) you also have to get all legendary outcomes - this gives an achievement at the end of negotations

you will know you succeeded at legendary outcomes if you see the following lines in the endings:

"And so, Arland and Jiyel slowly transformed one another and in doing so also changed the world."

"And so began a legendary golden age for both Hise and Corval."

 "And thus began a time of legendary change for both Wellin and Skalt."

"Although it once seemed an impossible transition, it is not long before former enemies manage to find themselves reluctant, but accepted allies working together to change the fate of a rebuilt Revaire."

               

For Avalie, I poured a lot of influence in making peace with Jiyel/Arland and giving Jiyel advantage in the negotiations. That, combined with making her my ally, got me her epilogue and the bonus!

No idea about Jasper, maybe he's only happy if you make Katiya's ghost satisfied with the nearly impossible all-legendary outcomes.

thank you for the tip! and ahhh i see! I guess it's because i focused too hard on giving arland the advantage there since i played a princess  that time. and god i guess revaire might've been cucking me on the jasper one. darn it jasper why. 

Oh how did you give Jiyel advantage for the negotiations? I've only managed to give a medium amount of benefits even with huge social influence? Meanwhile Arland gets huge benefits regardless.

Not sure what determines the amount of influence you have. I just used "greatly increase" on "give jiyel advantage", and it seemed to work. Maybe it depends on your reputation too?

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sooo I decided to do another run of my pirate MC, and I was gunning for a Zarad romance but I seem to find myself with the problem of not being persuasive enough to stay friends with Jarrod. So I thought, hey maybe I could do the Gisette/Jarrod romance for that good good manipulation boost for future playthroughs. But I thought I'd ask here first... does it end Badly if you are ethical/not manipulative enough to convince them both this will work? I just wanna make sure I'm not setting myself up for failure lol

actually disregard this, I'm gonna just restart with a different build so this time Kat can both be with Zarad and be a persuasive force unlike the Summit has seen since Katyia. I just had to sacrifice some cunning and beauty... (sadge)

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In case anyone in the future wants to know: I had decent friendship with Jarrod and Gisette because I was trying to legendary with my WidowMC, realized that I forgot a Rebel approval point by not choosing the right summit goal before the Matchmaker. So I decided eff it, Gisette romance time! You have to choose the poltiical marriage route for that  Then obviously romance Gisette. I had a perfect aquit  in the trial and hit a lot of soften Gisette flags, but not sure if that matters. You can be compassionate and noble, but need to tank your ethics by week 6. Being a widow/courtier/princess and choosing death in your personal quests may help. 

In my playthrough, I saved before the matchmaker (so I could go back and romance Emmett) and then decided to kill in my widow's personal questline to tank my ethics. In week 6, after doing the 3 scenes (if your manipulation isn't high enough for the check, you gotta let Jarrod kill the poor bird), you'll know you're on the right path if by the fourth scene, instead of seeing the political marriage candidates, Gisette approaches you and you two can conspire to marry Jarrod.  If your ethics are low enough, she will go, 'Wait. Nvm. You'll do juuuuust fine bby.'

When talking to your political matches, Jarrod is going to be all grumpy about things. That's fine. Whatever. Just make sure when given the option, you select the 'you both ' (I forget the exact wording). Jarrod intrigued. Any other option is just a political marriage with Jarrod (but you at least survive). In my playthrough I found out about the rebels in week 5 and sold them out to Gisette. (I didn't get the Sayra confession scene). That makes Gisette bby very happy. Side with the royals during the negotiations. Then sit back and enjoy the banter and how Jarrod is actually kinda cute if Gisette makes sure he stays in line and doesn't hurt her beloved MC. 

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I would love it, if you met certain requirements, that you could donate lyon to the arland royal library.

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perhaps if he marries the sheltered princess mc lol

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First run down, did everything right to broker peace and prosperity between all nations, was friends with everybody except Jarrod and discovered almost every secret* but my Widow MC looked at Gisette and thought "I can fix her." so poor Revaire Rebels got stomped and Katiya's legacy was broken.

pretty sure you can get peace with Revaire while still romancing Gisette. Unless you let your MC do whatever Gisette told her to because she's stupid in love ajfnvadvn

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I'm not sure if this is a bug or if I messed up, but Jarrod didn't invite me to dinner in Week One despite me choosing all the correct options at the welcome feast. All the other characters invited me to an activity, maybe that's it? Too many invitations? xD

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He can be a bit superficial… is your delegate a little low on beauty and charm? Those help with his first impression 

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She's low on both😭 I put way too many points in Manipulation. Thank you for helping!! I'm obsessed with your wonderful game♡

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<3

What options did you pick? I've had all the invitations come up before, so I don't think that's the problem.

Do the boni only unlock in challenge mode or in storymode as well?

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both modes <3

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