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Question for Challenge 4 colours or less?

A topic by Known-esoteriC created Apr 30, 2025 Views: 259 Replies: 6
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Where do you fit Black and White in terms of shades from both? If I picked, Red, Yellow, Orange, would Black & White be a shade or are we calling Black & White two separate colours? So would I have 4 colours or 5 colours? 

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Hmm that's a tough one, I don't know how to judge that. I guess it's either white, black and then all shades of grey cover 3 colors or just 1. I don't know if it's "correct" but I would lean towards counting them all as 1, otherwise 4 colors would be quite limiting when using white/black/grey as part of it.

If anyone else has any feedback, please let me know!

What about red and orange? Do these count as two? Is orange a shade of red or is it separate because yellow is mixed in?

I think you're taking it to another degree. That would be like saying, Red, Yellow and Blue are colours and everything else is a shade because they make up from the three primary colours being mixed. The definition of shade is not what you've defined so I'm not sure how you arrived at orange being a shade of red. I don't think the definition of colours is in dispute. As Mana said, Red and shades of red, ie; dark red, or light red are considered shades of red.

Ah, alright. I am not an expert.  I've just seen some artists use color palettes with red going into yellow  instead of into white to make it brighter,  so I was confused about what shade meant in art terms. Thanks for the info!

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Just ripped this from Google - 

  • Black represents the absence of light and is a shade resulting from the complete absorption of light.
  • White is the culmination of all colors of light combined and is present when light is reflected without any absorption.
  • In physics, color is defined by the wavelength of visible light, and since black and white lack specific wavelengths, they are not considered colors.

Not sure how useful this is with aligning what you had in mind but it's some food for thought!

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Well the thing is that colour is usually a representation of the primaries, blue, yellow and red. Black and white are unnatural 'colours' which is why most artists don't use either, and often to represent black or a dark area using a very dark blue, dark purple etc. Which is why often people refer to black and white as shades not colours.

In pixel art it is common to have a highlight area around the pixel art which is represented by black. So you can see the problem if the definition of colour isn't specific in this case. I think science isn't a helpful tool in this situation because we don't live in a reality of pure absence of light. We always have a degree of light.