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Teamwork and Fabian Cortez

A topic by quantumodo created Dec 13, 2025 Views: 206 Replies: 2
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Hi, 

I have no savefile for this because I am receving error 400 when trying to report bugs, but when playing against Magneto, I defeated Fabian Cortez https://marvelcdb.com/card/32159 Cards were discarded from the encounter deck until Senyaka https://marvelcdb.com/card/32161 was put in play. Immedeately, Snyaka activated againts me because of Teamwork, but it has been ruled that this should not be the case (taken from here: https://hallofheroeslcg.com/latest-ffg-rulings-post-rrg-1-6/):

I wanted to clarify on Fabian Cortez’s When Defeated ability. It’s been ruled in the past, if I discard/engage an Acolyte Minion with the Teamwork keyword, that the new Acolyte minion’s teamwork would not activate. Two questions: 1) Is that still correct? It is my understanding that Fabian Cortez is still in play while the Teamwork minion engages me as I need to fully resolve the When Defeat ability before discarding Fabian. 2) If it is indeed correct that the minion’s teamwork would not activate, is there a “no nested” ability at play here that would prevent the teamwork keyword?

That’s still correct; Fabian Cortez does not trigger Teamwork on the new Acolyte minion. When Fabian is defeated, the new Acolyte is put into play, then Fabian is discarded, and then the Acolyte’s Teamwork triggers. There is no nested sequencing causing Teamwork to trigger before Fabian is discarded; you resolve Fabian’s When Defeated in full and discard him immediately, then you open the timing window to resolve Teamwork and also any “Response” abilities triggering off of Fabian’s defeat.

-Alex – June 17, 2025

Thanks so much in advance!

Developer (3 edits)

Hi @quantumodo,

Thank you for your bug report regarding card “32159” (Fabian Cortez) and for providing the relevant FAQ.

However, we do not agree with the ruling in the FAQ.

First, the “Teamwork” keyword states:

After a minion with Teamwork enters play and engages a player, if there is at least one other minion that shares the specified trait in play, the minion that just entered play activates against the player it is engaged with.

Second, the “WHEN DEFEATED ABILITIES” states:

A defeated card leaves play after its “When Defeated” ability is resolved, if any

So, the process will be as follows:

  1. Fabian is defeated.
  2. Fabian invokes the “When Defeated” ability.
    2.1. The new minion with Teamwork enters play and engages a player, triggering the Teamwork keyword.
  3. Fabian completes the “When Defeated” ability.
  4. Fabian is discarded.

The FAQ seems to suggest that Fabian should be discarded during step 2.1 or that the Teamwork keyword should trigger after step 4, which is not possible.

Therefore, we will not update the code to align with this ruling.

If you have any insights, feel free to share!

Yeah, it also seemed strange to me. I understand that you want to keep it this way, even against the ruling, for consistency. Thanks!