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Padyshar26 days ago (2 edits) (+1)(-18)

The game is free. If you don't want to donate, you don't have to. End of story.

Really classy, belittling someone, posting their financials-- deliberately attacking someone for not giving you your handout on your schedule.

Edit: justifying bashing or bullying someone by saying it speeds things up is absolutely disgusting; it's like expounding on the benefits of a bullwhip because it makes slaves work faster. Justifying it because they do it on another site doesn't make it acceptable, either. Hurting someone that's giving you something for free is absolutely wrong. Hurtful is hurtful, period. When it's directed at someone because they didn't give you your free stuff fast enough, it's just plain shameful.

The sad part here is that most of the people I point this out to try to say I'm the one being rude or hostile-- I'm here defending someone that is too kind to lock this all behind a paywall and shut down hostile comments. Your hostility may have come "out of the side of your mouth" as it were, but an attack is an attack whether it's passive-aggressive, backhanded, or masked with praise.

Y'all are like schoolyard bullies beating people up for kicks and lunch money. Shameful behavior.

Another edit: the only thing I "gotta" understand is that their monthly earnings are between their patrons and themselves. I don't honestly care about the data.

Zaienn25 days ago(+15)(-3)

You know what I'm impressed on how delusional you can be. Comparing game development that makes thousands to slavery and calling criticism bullying is foreign to me. I'm really impressed at how much time you spend here on itch replying to bad comments when the creator really doesn't give a fuck about them. The data that I've shown was for context and your calling it belittlement, stay delusional my guy. Keep it up.

(I'll be so fucking impressed if you reply with a long ass paragraph again)

And if you can read

"don’t just blindly defend someone’s actions from criticism when there are two sides to every coin, and the critics actually raise valid points. Reading the discussions on F95 opened my mind to this. While many are just trolls hating, some actually raise good points that help you understand the situation. Komisari is incredibly slow, and that is a fact. And the players desperately want the update, which is also a fact. So even if he is hardworking and attentive, he can't avoid criticism when his slow pace shows in his work." Imma just quote what I said if you can't understand it then that's beyond me

Padyshar25 days ago (2 edits) (+1)(-18)

You did exactly what I figured you would... hell, what I literally said you would in my reply: you're on here bashing the author, with your hand out for your free stuff-- but I'm the one you think is in the wrong for calling you out on it. It's not delusion when you literally doubled down on what I said you'd do. Congrats. You played yourself. You think you're justified, posting financials (suggesting quite a few nasty possibilities with that one) calling the author slow... all the while saying "it's ok... it'll make them work faster" ... really? You really believe bashing someone so they'll hurry up and give you your freebie is good, kind, and decent behavior? Yeah... you make my point for me.

Right, I'M the one delusional... XD XD XD

Tell me, Mr. or Mrs. Innocent criticism: if you weren't trying to suggest something nefarious, what WAS the point of bringing their financials into it?

Allow me to reiterate: the game is FREE. Unless you're contributing to those financials, you're pressing someone to hurry up and give you your free stuff. All the while attempting to damage their bottom line (yes, I'm sure THAT will help) by posting their financials and suggesting either incompetent management or outright grift... perhaps trying to scare off his patrons, or attempting to prevent future contributors (again, SURELY, that'll help move things along...).

That goes well beyond criticism... that's deliberately trying to trash someone's livelihood... because you don't think their working fast enough.

But go on saying you're only trying to give constructive criticism... whatever helps you sleep at night.

I'm pretty sure I'm not the delusional one... but go on and deflect. I'm pretty sure you'll keep making my point for me.

Estharon16 days ago(+1)(-3)

You're not helping the dev by riling people up. In fact, you're doing more to worsen his position than to improve it.

And no, the game is not "free", as you keep saying. It's just being monetized collectively instead of per-copy.

Padyshar15 days ago (5 edits) (+1)(-4)

Just to be clear:

donation /dō-nā′shən/

noun

The act of giving to a fund or cause.
A gift or grant.
The act of giving or bestowing; a grant. Similar: grant
That which is given as a present; that which is transferred to another gratuitously; a gift. Similar:gift
The act or contract by which a person voluntarily transfers the title to a thing of which be is the owner, from himself to another, without any consideration, as a free gift.
A party assembled at the house of some one, as of a clergyman, each one bringing some present.
A voluntary gift or contribution for a specific cause.
A voluntary gift (as of money or service or ideas) made to some worthwhile cause.
Act of giving in common with others for a common purpose especially to a charity.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition • More at Wordnik

^This^ is what Patrons do. This is, as you see, completely voluntary. Now:

purchase /pûr′chĭs/

transitive verb

To obtain in exchange for money or its equivalent; buy.
To acquire by effort; earn. "purchased the victory with the loss of many lives."
To pull or haul by means of a mechanical device, such as a winch.

noun

The act or an instance of buying. "the sudden purchase of a car."
Something bought. "That hat was a wise purchase."
A hold or position that allows the application of power, as in moving something. "got a purchase for her foot and climbed up."
A device, such as a pulley, used to obtain mechanical advantage.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, 5th Edition • More at Wordnik

This is NOT a purchase. The product is free. You're bashing a dev that is providing a FREE PRODUCT because he hasn't finished it yet. But I'm the asshole. Right. You're out here demanding something you didn't even purchase, but I'm the asshole. ... do you even see what you're typing?

I'm not riling anyone; I'm defending the dev. Sorry if it bothers you that I'm not just letting you and your buddies attempt to destroy Komi's livelihood and credibility for taking his time. I don't give a shit that nobody asked me to-- I've said it before:

Y'all are like schoolyard bullies, beating on this dev because you think it will get you your freebie sooner. I'd stand against dispicable behavior like that any day of the week. The real question is this: what kind of person are you for condoning it?

Estharon14 days ago(+1)(-3)

The game is monetized. If it's monetized, it's not free. The only difference is in who is footing the bill, and when. No amount of sophistry can change that fact, especially not the false equivalence of monetization and purchase. Renting a house isn't a purchase, so it's free? You're full of shit.

Now cease your crybullying. You're no hero, just a nuisance stirring up drama and causing trouble for the dev.

Padyshar11 days ago (2 edits)

If you are not paying, it is free... no amount of "sophistry" changes that. If you're donating, you can stop-- because it is voluntary, as explained above--- and you'll STILL be able to get it, because *DINGDINGDING* it's free. Cease YOUR crybullying; I wouldn't have to say a thing if you'd move on from something that obviously bothers you... you know... being an adult and walking away instead of being a vindictive little whiner because you don't have your free stuff when you want it. Also: you aren't "renting" the game, you knob... this ain't Blockbuster Video. Completely irrelevant comparison.

I'll quit defending Komi when someone who actually has a horse in the race asks me to. ;)

Estharon10 days ago(-2)

Are you a communist or something? Do you really think it's free just because you don't pay? If your buddy buys you a drink, do you thank the barkeep for the freebie? (lol, as if you had a buddy) NOTHING is free if someone has to pay it for you. There is no free lunch.

And no, I'm not crybulling. That has been you from start to finish. I had to say something because of YOUR incessant bullshit. But if you have so much trouble shutting the fuck up, I'll gladly help you.

Padyshar6 days ago (1 edit)

OK, tough guy, feel free to try "shutting me the fuck up".

Let me put it in terms you might understand: if YOU are not paying for it, it is FREE to YOU. If you didn't pay a dime, you literally have no claim (or say, for that matter) in when, how, or to whom the product is distributed- period. It's free to you, even if you've contributed--- and that goes back to that definitions I posted earlier. You act as though you paid some tax, or your buddy paid some tax, to get you the game... except tax is compulsory.... there is nothing about this game, or it's relevant sites that is compulsory beyond being 18+ . The game is financed with DONATIONS... a concept you seem a bit too thick to understand. They're voluntary. It's not a business transaction; you aren't buying a 'drink'... in fact, you aren't "Buying" anything. This is NOT 'quid pro quo'... you aren't exchanging money for product, service, or anything else. IF you are contributing, you are doing it voluntarily-- and can stop at any time. You STILL aren't paying for the product if you come back later and get the game, but DON'T CONTRIBUTE A DIME. What, you think a one-time $5.00 donation means you've made anything close to an equivalent exchange? No. You donated $5.00 to a good cause, and now you tap your foot with your hand out expecting something in return. You didn't read the definition of "Donation", did you? If you're expecting something in return, you've misunderstood the whole transaction-- and who's fault would that be? (hint: not the author, nor anybody else buy the person you see in the mirror)

Will you get something if you donated? Evidence points to yes... this author has been super transparent on the Discord, and if he's guilty of anything, it's of being a perfectionist that wants to give his fan's the best-- for which you and your little bully buddies have set out thrash him publicly, repeatedly. Again, I'll stand up for Komi all day-- I don't much give a shit what some cyberbully and his lackeys think of me, no matter how often they threaten to "shut me the fuck up". That threat alone is toxic enough to prove what I've been saying:

Y'all are just schoolyard bullies, beating up on good people because nobody taught you any better. Don't you have anything better to do than try to wreck someone's livelihood because they aren't conforming to your standards?

Is that clear enough? Do you need it animated? A flow chart, perhaps? Shall I break out the crayons?

Ratio that, you keyboard thug.

Estharon4 days ago(-2)

You are completely retarded. Moving goalposts fron "it's free" to "free for you" does not change a damn thing. He's still cashing in thousands evety month, which people have to pay, so YOU can mooch off of it. And no, of course people don't need to pay to be allowed an opinion, you fucking commie, and they don't need your permission either.

I really don't get why you keep riling people up. Do you really not understand that being an insufferable asshole in his defense is actually getting him more animosity, or are you purposely trying to harm him by escalating the drama?

Padyshar2 days ago (4 edits)

My guy, I'm a CONTRIBUTOR... a patron on his Patreon with a Founder role on the Discord... LOL. Also, didn't I already say I didn't care what a cyberbully and his lil' buddies thought about me? Listen.. I'mma explain this one again, too-- because you seem to be having trouble keeping up, and you're making a REALLY poor attempt to try deflecting and projecting-- I will be an "insufferable asshole" to ANYONE that thinks it's OK to post someone's financial info online for the purposes of false accusation, or normalize bullying someone for taking their time to do this right, because they think he's taking too long. Full Stop. You call your little buddies off of Komi, and I'll stop giving them aneurysms by calling them out as the nasty little cyberbullies they are. Oh, by the way-- nobody "has to pay", thick boi... that's a donation they can stop at any time (I've explained that several times now) so that shtick has gotten kinda dry. Also, when, exactly, did I move the goalpost? Or was that a matter of your misunderstanding? Or, most likely, you want to try to twist this around somehow... the game is free. That he accepts donations to help with financing it is completely irrelevant-- sorry if that bothers you (I'm not, really). Nobody has ever had to pay a thing to get the game, whether contributing to Komi or not. He isn't charging anyone to play this game. He has a large group of people that have signed up to donate funds... and honestly, I think THAT bothers you more than anything... although whether you're jealous of the money they help him with, or the fact that that many people believe in him, I'm just not sure.

I DO know that the finances that pass between Komi and his supporters is nobody's business but their own, and posting their business online in a sad attempt to chase off contributors/future contributors is a classless, tasteless, low I.Q., cyberbully tactic that deserves no less than to be called out. YOU are the one that continues to defend such behavior, my guy. "Don't Start None, Won't Be None.." as they say.

Go on... next toxic comment for this "retard" please. Continue proving my point, by all means.

P.S. sorta tipped your hand, there, focusing on how much Komi gets in donations in the first part of your last comment... y'all are part of the same knitting-circle, aren't you? Bullies like traveling in flocks-- better go call your backup, kiddo, they're falling behind on their downvote game.

Padyshar2 days ago

GreyCreature16 days ago(+2)(-2)

You don't stop complaining, do you?

Padyshar15 days ago(-3)

I'm not the one that's only here to cry about not getting my freebie yet.