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i not sure if this is a bug report or i dumb and done something

i played in adventure mode with a black commander deck with Gonti, Night Minister ( a steal deck )

at every game for some reason, i cant tap/interact with the board, like my lands or artifacts, they allow me to tap for mana if i cast a spell or go to my attack phase (the creatures more exactly) or if it is a trigger effect, but if it requires a manual activation i cant activate it or anything, i can only zoom in and that is how i can equip weapons since it has an equip button under it

i not sure when it starts but not from the very beginning, after like 2 or 3 turns at least the most common thing maybe when it happens is when i press auto when multiple triggers activate but i always forget to check until i notice i cant tap my things

i saved a log from a game but not sure what parts to add without making a too long list of text XD

ps: not a priority but the exiled cards dont have images for some reason except in the description and only when they are in exile

DokkodoLabs8 days ago

Thanks for the detailed report! Two quick things that would help me a lot:

When it happens, does a basic land (like a Swamp) also refuse to tap, or only cards with more than one ability (dual lands, Treasures, equipment)?

In the log you saved, could you search for “nested loop” and paste just those lines?

And the exiled cards without images is fixed for the next version: cards you can play from exile now show their art.

collectioner8 days ago (3 edits)

yeah even basic land taping and no "pay 1 mana or something to get +1/0" type of thing from monsters or anything at all, no interaction unless a casted spell card says so

and i only copied like the match log, as in what cards where played, i have no proper idea what files i need to check for the nested loop

nvm i think i understood what you mean but after i played another game at like my turn 3-4 it got stuck and the only interaction before i noticed was this : (i will put ( 2x) to lower spam)

Turn 5 (Gabriel Doofball)

Gabriel Doofball played Swamp (36)

Gabriel Doofball cast Predators' Hour

Predators' Hour (92) - Until end of turn, creatures you control gain menace and "Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, exile the top card of that player's library face down. You may look at and play that card for as long as it remains exiled, and you may spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast that spell."

Gabriel Doofball assigned Tormented Soul (54) and Dauthi Ghoul (94) to attack Human Horseman.

Human Horseman didn't block Tormented Soul (54).

Human Horseman didn't block Dauthi Ghoul (94).

Tormented Soul (54) deals 1 combat damage to Human Horseman.

Dauthi Ghoul (94) deals 1 combat damage to Human Horseman.

Life: Human Horseman 13 > 11

Gabriel Doofball triggered Dauthi Ghoul

Gabriel Doofball triggered Tormented Soul

(2x) Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, exile the top card of that player's library face down. You may look at and play that card for as long as it remains exiled, and you may spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast that spell. [Damage Source: Tormented Soul (54), Damaged: Human Horseman, Amount: 1]

DokkodoLabs8 days ago

Thanks, that helps a lot! So it’s every card on the battlefield, even basic lands, starting after some “exile face down, you may play it” effect. I tried that exact situation (Gonti, and an opponent stealing my cards) and couldn’t trigger it yet, so I need to see what happens in your game:

Go to Settings → Detailed game log and turn it on.

Play until it happens again, and click a land a couple of times.

Click “Open the folder” in that same setting and send me detailed-game.log (and neo.log from the same folder if it’s there).

Those files record every click and what the game did with it, so I’ll see exactly where it gets stuck. Thanks for your patience!

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