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Oof... So now it's delayed because he's redoing ALL of the CGs? And quite a decent bit of them will be worse for it? This is not at all pleasant to read.

I quite liked the original art, it was a vibe. Clean, focused, sharp, emphasis on features etc.

The new art has lost nearly all of it's sharpness and seems a lot more blurred/dulled out. The entire background looks like the MC isn't wearing his glasses. Not sure 'more realistic lighting' is worth it at the cost of ruining all of the backgrounds. In some of these examples you can't see the faces properly and moisture blends into the lighting. For the top right one the MC suddenly has nail polish. I'm not convinced yet it's an improvement. Certainly looks like a sidegrade at best.

What will happen with locations you can access at multiple times of day/weather though? You say the images will 'react to surrounding environmental lighting,' Rain already darkens and ruins a lot of those in the current version. Don't tell me this will make it even worse because there is even less lighting there? Will they need manual fixing for all the weather effects? 🤔

For minigames the tower one is the one you just skip out on because it already takes up too much time for what little money you earn from it. Not sure how many people care for that one having more options and becoming possibly even longer. At least make it so when you fail you still earn the money you gathered so far... (if this isn't already the case by now, haven't really touched this minigame the last few updates)

This seems like such a headache and so much extra cleanup...  and all of it is extra work that didn't need to be done as well. Guess the next update won't be any time soon then? 😭

'Again, implies they don't belong in THIS game.' No, once again it does NOT imply that. I also mentioned that it does sort of fit in the story given the world that was created. ('It sort of matches the world setting, so I can sort of understand why it's there in this case.') You are completely changing the narrative to fit your flawed logic. The statement is 'it could be it's own game' and it certainly could be. No buts or ifs about that.

'You're claiming the futa and femboy characters weren't designed to be futas and femboys from the get go? Prove it.' => Again, changing the narrative entirely. That is not what I claimed and you know it. Don't try to "read between the lines" when there is nothing there to read.

'Just toggle all the LGBT stuff, that would be "fair" after all. I like how you completely ignore the example I use of "turn the gay man into a woman."' => It's a game with customisable options. You're telling me you NEVER change the protagonist or NPCs in ANY game when they are customisable? You play with every character and setting set to 'default' because that's how it was created? I bet you changed the MC's name in this game, you hypocrite. Stop making up these braindead arguments that hold no water...

'What expectations? Phoenix is on the Itch page.' => Phoenix is, so many of the others are not.

'And yes, asking for a toggle/alternatives objectively means seeing them is bad/not wanted. It's basically an arachnophobia toggle. But, you know, for futa hermaphrodites and femboys.' => I suppose you are sort of correct (for once). Seeing it kills my boner and makes me physically gag at times. (Usually when I go in not knowing.) Again: 'It's a physiological response for a reason.' Do I want the content gone though? Of course not. It has every right to exist and you can't judge people's preferences and likes/dislikes. (A rule you should maybe apply yourself btw) That's why, as I've said before, the best option is usually a toggle. Or an option along the lines of 'do you want this character to use image set 1,2, or 3?' This serves everybody. Everybody gets their preferred choice. Both the 90+% of players and the <10% of players. There is no mental gymnastics or downplaying anything. All I'm saying is most people would appreciate more options. This is just a factual statement. I don't understand why you insist on arguing against something that obviously benefits all parties...

'It being optional isn't enough though, they don't want the characters to be in the game at all. They want the characters to be toggleable.' 🤔Can I maybe advise you to read this back a few times. 'They don't want it to simply be optional; they want better control over how the being optional works.' => Yeah? What's wrong with that exactly? 🤨

P.S. I love how you, yet again, avoided answering the questions I asked you. What kind of mental gymnastics are you pulling off every time to avoid taking any sort of accountability for your actions? 🙃

1st of: What is wrong with you? Who hurt you? You are trying your hardest to nitpick at things to find something to critique and hate when in reality there isn't anything there. At the very least you used arguments, for which I commend you.

"This implies its existence in this game is unfair. " => No it does not in fact imply that. A 'fair judgement' is an impartial, unbiased decision based purely on facts rather than personal feelings or prejudices. I said 'it could be it's own game.' Is this not a fair and accurate statement? There is certainly enough quality content for it etc. If you don't think that is fair( thus think it is unfair), then you are arguing that it couldn't be it's own game, for whatever reason you might have for that. It has nothing to do with the existence of anything.

"Why is this obvious? " => Because if there is alternate versions of the scenes EVERYBODY gets more scenes. Did you forget that creating extra scenes doesn't only go one way perhaps? There would obviously be more scenes with the kink as well for other characters.

"I'm not going to get into the terminology debate, I don't care for it. But this is vile. The characters have been designed to be what they are." => What do you even mean by that? They were created to be living in an alternate universe already. So you believe in this one character in this one universe only but not in subsequent alternate universes with other version of the character? How do you feel about many of them having gone through changes during development then? 🤨 Technically every choice you make in game is in itself already another alternate universe as well. Are the ending characters not the real characters either then aside from the 'true ending' ones? These characters already aren't designed to simply be one single way or the other from the get-go. The players essentially design and shape them throughout the game. So by your logic the developer and everybody playing, including yourself is vile.

I read books quite often, I'm already part of thousands of alternate universes, one more doesn't really rattle my chain. I'm sorry I'm not emotionally attached enough to only believe in a single alternate universe in a single game I suppose? I really wonder why you are this emotionally invested though, genuinely.

"I assume you're referring to the spotting minigame? So simply seeing the characters is bad, I understand. " => No, you clearly do not. It is not really about seeing the characters, it is more about expectations and them being subverted. But I suppose it could be for some. It's a physiological response for a reason.

"Also claiming nobody is judging futa and femboy content is at best ignorant and more than likely purely disingenuous." => I never made this claim and I'm not sure why you're bringing it up. Is it because I said 'nobody is judging here' in reference to our conversations and you somehow assumed I was speaking for everybody here? I'll rephrase in that case: 'I'm not judging'.

Edit: For the record: Judging is a cognitive process of evaluating something based on criteria. Liking is the emotional or preferential response. They aren't 'judging' the content, they are disliking it. 

Can I ask though, why are you trying so hard to hate on me for giving genuine, logical advice (critique at times, I suppose) based on facts, devoid of emotion? I've been nothing but nice and polite, yet you're slinging nothing but unfounded hate towards me. It truly perplexes me. I'm sure there are plenty of more deserving people out there.

This is a situation where you, yet again I should add, completely disregard the content of the conversation and start nitpicking to attempt to create some sort of 'gotcha' moment instead of actually adding to the conversation. The statement isn't going to change just because I happen to refer to different content than you had in mind.

Did you create that account just to troll and sow discord and hatred or something? With every comment you post, that seems to become increasingly more true at least.

If you insist on an answer, though, I don't mind answering your question. I'm not avoiding anything at all. I'm a functional adult capable of debate, and I don't mind being corrected if I'm wrong. In fact, learning opportunities like that are usually welcomed. You should maybe try joining the debate sometimes.

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There are multiple niche fetishes present. There are several -dere types in the game; there is a sweaty, greasy tomboy and robot sex, etc. too. Not all of those are for everybody. So yes, I was more general for a reason. These ones are somewhat agreeable to the general population, though.

For the averse bit  I was, however, mainly referring to, as just about everybody knows and it didn't really need saying, the hermaphrodite content.  Or rather, what is wrongly tagged as 'hermaphrodite' (yes, that's what 'futanari' refers to) and is actually just gay/shemale/trans content, as they don't have both sexes but only have male sex organs.

The people that consume futa and/or gay/trans content make up a highly niche single-digit percentage of the adult population. In other words, well over 90% of the population does not enjoy that content or does not willingly seek it out at the very least.

There is nothing wrong with liking that content, of course, you do you. Nobody is judging here. It is simply the reality of the situation that it is not everybody's cup of tea.

p.s. "The content is purely optional, but that isn't enough for you, you just don't want it to exist at all." I pity you if that is what you got out of my previous statement. Content being optional is the same as it not existing already if you're not into that type of content. That was the point I was making back then. It's simply a bit of a waste for that content to be optional when it could be enjoyed by everybody if there were alternative versions. It's not the same at all. Also, for the record, it wasn't always optional. 😅

Why are you so invested exactly? It just seems like you are trying to pick a fight where there isn't one.

'not really true' so it sort of is, yeah we know. It's been brought up before. 😅

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as it was decided to be done for 1.9 to reduce the time needed to add such content and polish near the steam release after 2.0.

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=> That's not how that works or definitely not how it's supposed to 😂😂😂

Generally, you don't really reduce the time for the work by reducing the amount of versions; at least not significantly. Especially not if you're implementing the new features one by one. If you're doing a bit of everything at once or if you plan to test and bugfix every version extensively etc. yourself though then perhaps an argument can be made. But that's not usually how it goes. It's also not unusual to release an update and have the people essentially be the testers finding bugs. I'm not sure how Kal does his work but I suppose there might be some truth to it being faster as one update. (not if he keeps scope-creeping though 😆)

For the rest of the text about development, sure, I agree for the most part, as I said it's just odd for somebody who has historically been quite consistent to then not be. Especially when the methodology suddenly strays from so many of the general 'best practices'. But yes, it's Kal's project, they can do whatever they want with it. I'm merely just stating how people might think about it.

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This part I don't see how it comes to be a point "If there were at least some more explanations/updates or teasers of what is actually coming". Again, yes, the deadline for the given estimate release was missed, but an explanation, and teasers were given.

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=> Not so much on this platform. I didn't say there wasn't any at all though. But for this platform, the few that were there were mainly people following the discord etc. and posting it here for other people so they were made aware. That and a few posts made by you yourself which can be mostly summed up as 'Delayed again, work is being done, won't spoiler too much.' which is something, but it is a bit of a 'nothing burger' for most. It honestly doesn't tell you much of what is actually going on. Especially for those unaware of how development progresses. There is a reason a lot of creators have started using 'progress bars' to visualise what's going on even if these bars mean very little in a lot of cases.

Personally I think it's a bit odd to not show off some of the best bits to come to get people excited and wanting to work towards getting that scene themselves. A censored scene, a line of text that speaks to the imagination, etc. could also be great options without giving too much away. Perhaps it's intentionally not being shown because it would only lead to more people wanting it sooner, I suppose.

In the end people are only this frustrated because they simply want more of something great and can't wait for the next release. So it only makes sense for people who have played prior releases to complain more than new people. 😂

There was no reasonable explanation given as to why all the extra content couldn't just be in another update.

That's kind of the whole thing... He could have made 1.9 and then 1.9.1; 1.9.2; 1.9A or whatever for the extra content. Like he has done several times prior.

Instead it turned into scope creep and all the deadlines passed without any real reason for them to. He could have done half of the work, released that, then did the other half and released that. Same timeline, same work done, just more releases for the people to enjoy. 

If anything he might be creating more work doing it all at once if there is no proper version control etc. since more bugs might slip in that become harder to track and resolve. Considering he's also revising old content at the same time it might become a complete soup. I'm sure he's a competent dev and it'll all be fine in the end but you can't help but worry about it at least a little. Especially with the deadline eventually turning into 'It'll be finished whenever it is'. For a lot of people that's seen as a red flag in content development. (for the record I'm not saying it actually is one in this case.)

As for the 'more content' a lot of it has historically been catered to a very small minority shouting loudly on discord to have it. The majority of players might not ever even interact with it (or be averse to it). So the update having that as an extra or not doesn't really matter to them. That's kind of besides the point though... Since we haven't really been told much about what's actually being added as extra content aside from the planned content, it's difficult to say what to expect. (In all fairness, I, like a lot of other people no doubt, also haven't dug much deeper than what has been publicly posted here and there, so there might be things I'm not aware of)

If there were at least some more explanations/updates or teasers of what is actually coming, I don't think it would have ever reached this point of malcontent, to be honest.

No. You clearly aren't understanding the core of his argument. The only flawed logic I see here is yours. And it's not simply flawed, it's completely missing the point entirely, by a longshot.

"It's insanely entitled, juvenile, and just bad form." Yeah so is shouting 'Freeeeee' and adding nothing of significance. No logic, no arguments, nothing. 

The update that was supposed to happen didn't and it's been months. <= What do you think is flawed about this?

The game isn't free until it is released, until then the work being done is being paid for by Patreon and other subs which allows the creator to spend his time on it. <= What about that statement? Is it not also just simply the reality of the siuation?

And if you really want to nitpick then it's never 'free' in the truest sense of the word to begin with. You always pay with something, even if it's only with your time and attention.

Now, let's for arguments sake say the game did cost 10, 50, 100, whatever arbitrary amount and currency you want. Do you now suddenly think his complaints are valid? Just because there is a price card attached to it? It having no price card does not make his arguments less valid. That's the entire point you are missing completely...

Saying 'it's free' doesn't mean it shouldn't be criticized or his concerns aren't valid. That's flawed logic. You're not making sense.

It's free to not harass a person for having opinions as well. 

Maybe consider that before you type another message that adds literally nothing to the conversation. At least provide something of value to the discussion if you're going to bother typing. (¬_¬)

Yeah, that vocal minority insisting on seeing two men go at it in a game about the player and Anna is kind of odd to me as well. It sort of matches the world setting, so I can sort of understand why it's there in this case. It could probably also just be its own game, though, if we're being fair.

The very obvious solution with including kinks in your game is usually to just make an alternate version of the kink scenes with an option to toggle the content if you want. Making that content is a big time sink already and having most of the people just not even engage with that content only makes it a bit of a waste of time otherwise.

A simple yes wouldn't have sufficed, as the answer wasn't actually yes. 🤨

I'm sorry you have trouble reading for a timespan of 10-20 seconds. No worries though, if you keep at it and practice, you'll get better with time. 🥰

Because I actually know how the updates work? Thankfully the dev does too in this case.

The lettered updates have been mainly bugfixes and a couple of minor scenes and additions (or reworks). Some of those scenes were intended for the non-lettered update and weren't yet added beforehand. Others were mainly just for side characters. Generally none of those were worth restarting your game for. Most of the time you didn't need to either.

The last major update was 1.8. That is the very reason why everything after it has been lettered updates. That is kind of the whole point of them. 

Hope this was educational for you.

To come back to your point though, I did not 'ignore' the updates, I just did not mention them. Stark difference there.

They didn't really warrant the mention to me. Since you insist, though, yes, it has been 100 days since the last lettered b-c-d updates happened.

Thank you for agreeing with everything else I've said, though, since the only criticism you seemed to have was me not mentioning minor updates and fixes that obviously happened since then. 

The man is out of line, sure. But he's not exactly wrong.

Also I never understood their whole roundscape development. Over half of the players came in for the Farmer Origin scenes in Slinsk. Then they proceeded to barely touch on those ever again during the next decade of development. I'm surprised it did as well as it did with the sheer amount of bugs and exploits that exist in the game but that's besides the point.

This game has eclipsed that one by far at this point. For a good reason. (and it's not the gameplay 😂)

Patreon is abused by too many people with the whole " 'Update coming soon' - proceeds to not give an update for the next year to cash in on subs." to seriously say the whole point of it is to not deal with stupid deadlines. The whole point of patreon is to get funding for the work they perform/create, period. No need to beat around the bush or make up excuses about that. Kal definitely isn't one of the people that milk their subs though but new people might not be aware and they only see 'update coming soon' and months go by without any status updates really. Some more transparency there would be nice.

The point I'm trying to make is: It's been well over a month, nearing two since the announced deadline. It's been half a year since 1.8. It's understandable that people might get a bit frustrated with the wait. I mean I'm here checking (yet again) if the new update has arrived as well. That's what happens when you make a good game. People come asking for more. 🤷 Can't really blame them...

Might want to look into the definition of molesting... 

Think the word you're looking for is 'harassing' and nobody is doing that either since we're just asking questions for valid reasons.

Maybe another idea is to just set it as 'earliest possible date if all goes well' or something along those lines? It's been a bit of a recurring theme now and it's increasingly frustrating honestly... But it's only because we're looking forward to the update so much that it's so frustrating <...<

Having rigurously tested this method for probably like 40-50 hours of playtime at this point I haven't encountered a bug with it specifically once. (Can't really speak for edge cases etc. though. 🤷‍♂️)

And that's me talking as a professional tester with over 15y experience.

Most of the issues there were with doing the same thing over and over were you encountering other bugs in locations more often. Most of which have been fixed at this point. I could also just be avoiding the bugs unconsciously at this point tbh. Not ruling that out.

But sure, it's not intended and use at your own risk.

It's just too damn convenient to do 3x bike race in the same day, do all 3 Tristans and get heavenly husband, do 3x depression talk in the same day and not have to wait up to 10 days for her to be drinking again etc. The 'do this on only monday' stuff reaaaaally slows you down, especially if it randomly rains now (or snows)  and you just lose another week of progress on it. Nobody really likes dealing with bloat. It's fine for the first playthrough. Or the first few. But not when it's the 6th time playing through 😅 (or the 20th 😛)

Also, for the record. If you want a fast playthrough, just use save/load. It resets most of the daily/weekly events. That way you don't need to do 3+ weeks of skipping to wednesday for the bike race for instance. Just do it once, go to the room, save, load, go back to the event and do it again. You can usually get out of debt, be at 5 star Anna and finish the celeste storyline in under 25 days passed.

Spam click.... click once = text fully appears; click again and go to next dialogue. If you spam well enough you skip past most of the dialogue.

You can also spam spacebar for the same and you can combine spacebar + clicking. 

Do be aware of where you click etc. though as you can accidentally pick an option you didn't mean to. Also this can in very rare cases lead to softlocks with buttons not appearing. Most (if not all) of the places where this could happen have been patched at this point though. Hasn't happened in quite a while for me at least.

Also this is Unity, not renpy... it's not exactly a 5second change more like an entire rework of the engine >...>

Edit: I also kind of forgot about the whole manual/auto/skip dialogue button top left that you can click when you're talking. (skip setting makes the text appear instantly already)

But uh... to come back to the original reason... There is basically no content for non sharing that doesn't also exist for sharing. You just miss out on the additional sharing scenes. Same thing with the love route. You just miss out on most of the game going with it. The few scenes that do currently exist for those routes are also locked behind specific choices with other characters and are very missable.

I never understood why they just like... never made (much) more content for the farmer origin when that was what 80% of players where there for. Such a great start to the game. Then years of development past the original origin scenes with barely any new content for it. It was such a letdown... :x

I'm going to advocate for some more content for the solo/sneaky? route.

Joseph is passed out on the couch on friday if you give him the whiskey. Why not have a scene with Anna while he's there passed out?

Have  a blanket during the TV watching to get playful with Anna while Joseph watches his show.

Have more scene(s) like the wednesday event where you have 'visit' and Joseph almost catches you.

Possibility to rewrite some dialogue/add to it a bit to make some of the scenes spicier on the solo route. E.g. when you go to the dresser and Anna asks Joseph to get out so she can talk to you, then immediately gets on her knees => have MC confront her 'Did you just send out Joseph just so you could taste my dick again Anna?'

You could have some scenes where you brag to Adrian about your new GF and show him some pictures of Anna (without the face in them)

Honestly there is so much wasted potential there. Maybe it would be an idea to have it be a 'selected' route rather than just the state of 'Joseph & Adrian haven't been told... yet.' Then you're locked in to the route and get specific scenes for it. Currently it just really sucks that there is basically no scenes at all exclusively for the (still) solo route.

As always it will be basically the last day of the announced release date. Possibly even delayed and near the last day of the delay date. >.< This is a side project for them (for some reason, despite having way more interest than the main one) so it's mainly getting worked on after the work for the other project is finished. It's also usually tested and some bug fixes will occur before the update even happens. So instead of release, bug fix a week or two later it's delayed for 1-2 weeks instead. (and then still releases with bugs anyway because that's development for you :P)

TLDR just check in once a week and try to forget about it tbh. (and yeah I know it's difficult >..>)

Literally none of these matter for the SCREEN  size. 

What's the size of your monitor and what kind up upscaling are you using?

 If you're playing on a laptop size screen you obviously can't use 1080p size which requires 22-24 inches at least.

Also keep in mind that unity might still clip at the lowest size so you're better off with one bigger than the requirement and then play windowed instead of full screen.

For the colab you need to go to the wastelands a few more times and have Celleste experience the touch of a man. After doing that a few times she's agreeable enough to listen to whatever you tell her. (Pretty sure you get a prompt about releasing stuff to her fans or not at some point which decides her fate)

Protector start; 

+ Haniya (passive 35% chance to upgrade a die by 3) 

+ Alice (Passive 1d4 every point of mana at the start of turn (which is 3 with upgrade guaranteed) 

+ Himari (Passive 3d4 whenever 5 dice are rolled) 

=> Use hero passive for random die upgrades => get 3x d4 from Alice and get 3x d4 from Himari whenever you roll your own hero ability for 1 mana once (as it rolls 6 dice).

This makes you Start every fight with almost enough damage to kill from passives only. You also get 3-400 damage with 3 mana used at the end sometimes. Literally one turn any fight the entire way through. And if you don't you get a ton of shield + heals as well so you can literally never die.

Edit: I just got 336 damage from passives alone. Went up to 542 with characters rolls. Overkilled everything in half a turn from start to finish Because hero ability went into the d4 at the start.

Scenes with Alice in church are for the Sharing with Adrian path only if I'm not mistaken. If you're not on that path then you won't get any scenes with her in the church.

This has been in since the introductions of saves and I doubt it will ever change as they would have to overhaul the entire save system (yet again). It's quite nice to not have to wait several weeks and remember to go to quest objectives on specific days though. (Especially if you messed up a route and have to restart over yet again...) You don't HAVE to save/reload over and over you know... :P

It's also still all of the same grinding, just less waiting time in between.  And no, you can't finish all the quests in one day. You also shouldn't as you'll miss out on a lot of the content. 

Betray Sofia, have the Emma sharing done AND wait several weeks. Then when talking to Mario he should give it to you. It takes quite a while after the conclusion of story line iirc.

The easy fix? NEVER work. If you need money go to the forest and kill demons. Buy the golden sword ASAP and you'll never struggle with money.

Once you learn how to abuse saves to reset daily events the game speeds up significantly as well. (just save and load the save) This allows you to do questlines like Tristan's being only wednesday in 1 day rather than 3 weeks. It can also be used to get to 4 hearts in the second week by taking pictures on the same day over and over. (park day is preferred)