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Hey there! Thanks for the question.
If I understand your question correctly, then yeah you absolutely can use your own music submitted here for future projects (obviously I don't know what that project looks like, but do keep in mind Correlation to Theme is a ranked element of this jam). Now if you're talking about other music submitted here, then that'll have to be discussed with the original author of the submission.
Hopefully that makes sense :)
So I'm not very familiar with FL Studio as a whole or the tools within the software, but based on the name alone I'm inclined to think that this falls under 'generative methodologies'.
With that being said, I'd prefer that you not use the output from this generator in your final submission. However, if you're using tools like this to learn or help come up with ideas in your harmony that you go on to play yourself for the final submission, that's fair game and totally fine to do.
Hi! Just a couple of things I want to make sure of. Are the conceptual+compositional challenges always linked? So, if I want to try challenge #1 for example, do I need to make a track that is both a transition and fully modal? Or can I split them up (make one transitional track, and one fully modal track)?
And can you mix and match the challenges? I assume that it's not enough if I do only half of a challenge (like only the compositional challenge from challenge #2 or whatever), but can I grab the conceptual challenge from one number, and the compositional from an another? Like could I make one track that is a stealth mission, and an another track that uses odd time signatures, would that count? Or do they specifically need to be from the same challenge number.
Last thing: "The track must contain a melody that can be heard going forwards and backwards." What does this mean exactly? That the melody works if reversed? That we hear the melody both directly and then in reverse? That the melody is symmetrical (exactly the same forward or reversed)?
Hey there!
So the intention is that Yes the conceptual and compositional challenges are linked to each other, meaning that I'd like to see y'all attempt to create one track that follows both of those limitations. After that, you are welcome to attempt some components of other challenges, they just shouldn't be marked as an attempt at another challenge if you don't attempt both elements.
For the sake of organizing things both on the back end of this jam and with how you all fill out some questions when submitting your work, I set it that way so it's a little more straightforward (So if you mark in your submission that you attempted Challenge #1, I would anticipate you attempt both elements of the challenge). I believe this covers your first two questions for the most part.
It seems like we're both referring to a very similar thing in your third paragraph, if not the same, but to directly answer your question I would say that the melody should try to be symmetrical. The challenge is based on the this old method of composition, similar to how a palindrome works, hence the use of "can be heard going forwards and backwards".
Thanks for your questions! Hopefully that makes sense :)
Are the chord pads in cubase considered a generative methodology? I have nerve damage in my my left hand that prevents me from using it to write so I do everything one handed. I know what all the chords are but I just use them for my workflow because I would have to click each chord in one voice at a time if I didnt use them.
Hey there!
So the requirement I've put in place is that just one of your tracks has to attempt one of the challenges put together (both the conceptual and compositional limitation listed). After that, any limitations you might want to attempt on your other tracks are optional.
For future reference you can check out the bottom of the first page on the document where all of the challenges are listed. :)
Hey there!
Currently there aren't any plans for listening sessions at this point in time. That may change in the future though.
There is no Discord server specifically for this series of jams, as that's not something I'm currently interested in putting together. However, I am technically hosting this as a kind of extension for the Impressions Guild, which is branching out to all kinds of endeavors on Itch. You can find a link to that Discord server here at the bottom of the page.
Thanks for the questions :)
Hey yourself!
So I had another question about this challenge (I'll probably update the document soon), but yeah the idea for this challenge is that the melody should be symmetrical. So if you have a 16-measure melody, for example, then the next 16 measures should have that melody played backwards. Additionally, I shared this resource to clarify/answer the other question about this challenge as an example of what I'm looking for.
Thanks for asking :)
Hey there!
So I would say yes 30 minutes is gonna be a pretty hard maximum. I think if you were to go over a little bit then the absolute most I'll allow is an extra ~2-3 minutes if necessary, but no more than that.
I want to make sure that as many people as possible will be able/willing to listen to plenty of submissions and give feedback, and I feel that allowing people to go longer than ~30 minutes will hinder that.
Hey there. I dunno if this is the right place to do this, but I think it's easier than to create a whole other topic: in the Composition part of Bonus Challenge #2, it tells us to use both "relative major and minor", but the example talks about using "A major and A minor", which are parallels, not relatives. I believe it is a mistake and it confused me a bit
Hey there,
I have a quick question about the rule that says AI and generative methodology are banned in all parts of the submission.
Does this include text-to-speech (TTS) tools? Specifically, I was thinking of using something like Microsoft Sam, which is an old robotic voice from Windows (late 90s/2000s). It's not based on neural networks or AI models — it's an old-style formant synthesizer that just turns text into a robotic-sounding voice using fixed rules, kind of like a basic speech synthesizer in old computers.
Would using a voice like that be allowed, or does the rule cover all synthetic voices regardless of how old or "robotic" they sound?
Thanks!
Hey yourself!
I think you should be fine to use this, so long as your statement is true about not using AI models/neural networks (primarily what this rule was established for).
I'll probably update the rules in future iterations to have more specific language for stuff like this 🙃
Thank you for asking.
I accidentally post the question as a new topic so I'll repost it here.
Hello, I have a question about bonus challenge #6. The entire track must be around 76-108 bpm as the challenge implies. However, I got a little bit confused about whether the tempo setting should be around that or the track should feel around that tempo. Like, I made the track with 90 bpm setting in the project, but some part of it have the drum that plays double time. Technically, that part should be 180 bpm but the project setting is 90 bpm. I'm not sure if it's a stupid question but is it acceptable? If you don't understand what I mean, feel free to comment. I'll try to explain better.
Hey there!
As much as I'd love to hear everything you've come up with and have it be included in this jam, I'm afraid I have to insist that the overall runtime be reduced to get it much closer to the 30-minute limit for your official submission to the jam.
I do believe you when you say you tried to limit it, I really do, but I cannot make an exception like this. Otherwise I'd feel an obligation to allow everyone to do that. The limit was intentionally set to 30 minutes in order to better ensure everyone that submits is given sufficient feedback (In my experience and that of other composers on itch, typically more people are likely to listen to/rate other's work if it's <=30 minutes compared to if it's 40+ minutes).
With that being said, I don't want to deny you or anyone else any meaningful feedback you might get from others. So, if you'd like to share the material that goes over the limit, you can add a link to those tracks separated from the rest of your submission in a comment on the submission page (not the itch page, but the space where comments are left by other people during a jam's voting period). I will allow this so long as this material is distinctly marked as being separate from the other, submitted material, and that you know that it does not get taken into consideration in the final ratings.
If you do decide to go with the above-mentioned suggestion, I am gonna be strict about it to ensure the final submission fits the runtime limit.
Sounds fine! I do think at least 2 songs can be cut, which should bring the runtime closer to 35 Minutes. Even though I'd make an exception for 1-2 people, I do appreciate you thinking of others! I have just looked at the total runtime, & it's actually just a little bit under 37 minutes (36:55 To Be Exact). I guess I accidently counted a copy of 1-2 files when I was first checking the total runtime, as I did have to convert some of the files into .WAV format, as I usually like to expoart .OGG files. (Bandcamp can't use .OGG files.) With the songs that could be cut out, it should bring the runtime to more around 32 Minutes. (32:42 To Be Exact.) I'm cutting out the files that were just made to increase an interaction with the album, but aren't really needed, as they aren't part of any challenges.
Hey again, so I see the rating of the submissions is now open. I'm not too familiar with how jams typically work, so does everyone just listen to the submissions and rate? I already started listening to a number of submissions a few days ago. Anything in particular we should be aware of or do? Thanks in advance.
Yep, that's correct.
The different categories are defined on the 'Overview' section of the Itch page, and are there to help you decide how to rate each category for a submission. I'm also planning to put together another message for the group as a whole on giving helpful feedback in the next ~ 24 hours or so.