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We are getting way too dwarven games and its a problem

A topic by martinmalheur created 3 days ago Views: 401 Replies: 37
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I have never liked dwarves, I found them quite juvenile and boring, all the things people praise them for look like its a joke but to each their own. I am trying to ignore everything dwarf related but it seems developpers are obsessed with them to a ridiculous degree, they all want to make their own dwarven game, will re use assets, make similar characters, have the exact same themes or mechanics,... Even if their games looks like the ten other before them and have nothing new or even interesting they'll keep going. And of course since nobody will buy 25 dwarven games almost all of those game flop and don't get many sales if any.

I'm not the only one venting about this as it has become a real issue, not just being forced to play only as a race we do not like for many of us, but also how most indie games now will just use something easy or that they think is popular and go with it. No risk taken, nothing new brought to the table, just the same kind of games we had for the last 15 years now!

Years ago I thought those games not selling would show people it was time to move on and try something else, for some reason it didn't work, every game devs WANT to make games about dwarves and only them, and we the players are just drowned in all this with nothing new. This is why I rarely play games these days and many of my friends just gave up on indie gaming, they play the big AAA games and thats it because they saw the indie industry has nothing to offer.

Now while we players have to endure all that elves fans such as myself have been waiting for games about elves for years now, yet the demand that increase year by year, the myriad of things that could be done with them gamewise and their insane popularity we get nothing. I get making games about elves would be hard, it's true they would not be easy to pull off, but nobody even trying is absurd. Because whoever wants to make a game on them will find they won't have any competitors, at all.

I just wanted to rant and express my frustration over the state of indie gaming since its inception basically and as we approach 2027 nothing changed.

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lol are you serious? 

why wouldn't I be?

This is why I rarely play games these days and many of my friends just gave up on indie gaming, they play the big AAA games and thats it because they saw the indie industry has nothing to offer.

[...]that said.....

i recommend you grow up while getting a life.....further i suggest you amend for performing a capital sin by either buying this bundle:

--> /b/3955/itching-for-games-3<--

or playing my games .... though you won't find any elfs or dwarfs in there.....but pure bullet hell action ;) best regards <3

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You're back Elf Guy!! 😭 I've missed you!!!

You've inspired me to try my hand at making a game ok? Cheers~~

what is that supposed to mean? I'm not surprised many people probably complained about this already but why call me elf guy? I see you are obsessed with hunting down such topics for some reason, and you probably saw how many people feel this way. But why do you do all that exactly, its very unsettling...

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Elf Guy senpai noticed me ❤️❤️❤️

you're weird, but at least nobody will believe all those people talking about this issue or elves could be the same person, but thanks for showing me this I will contact them to hear their opinions

Weirdly funny ✌️

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Well, stop complaining and make your own game(s) featuring elves.

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I'm contributing to the "problem" by starting development on a dwarf game:

Have you tried Dwarf Fortress? There is a very good mod where you can play as elves.

what made you want to start a dwarf game, why do all game developpers do this? Why not try elves or anything else? I just don't get it at all is it ease, the thought that dwarves are the most popular because their fans are loud? Because the tropes tell you that you cannot use anything other than a dwarf for a building/mining game?

And no I hate dwarf fortress more so because it's one of the reasons the game industry is full of dwarven games

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There's something cozy about digging a refuge from the outside world. I like geology and dwarves. People like different things. Too bad your hatred is so deep, the mod makes it an excellent elven civilization game.

How do you come to the conclusion that "all" indie game developers make dwarf games and that you are forced to play?

What about gnomes?

then why constantly use the exact same race? Why no have elves or even goblins? It seems all the people who make games are obsessed with dwarves with no exception.

You can probably see almost all indie games only have dwarfs and nothing else, we players are being forced to constantly play the same thing because devs are too obsessed or uncreative to make anything even remotely new or daring. Gnomes are not shoved constantly into players face so there is no gnome fatigue.

And what would it take to make you try giving elves a chance in your games?

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Because I like dwarves and I never made a dwarf game  Also elves digging underground cities doesn't make sense to me. Goblins would be cool, thinking of doing a goblin game too one day.

No I can not see "almost all indie games only have dwarfs and nothing else". Are we looking at the same website? Do you have all search filters turned off? I have the feeling you are the one obsessed by dwarves.

It would take a big paycheck to do things I don't like in my free time, instead of having fun and enjoying my artistic freedom.

but everybody is making dwarf games, we have thousands and it keeps growing every single months. Why not use elves in an underground game, why not break the rules? Also i see you didnt answer my last question what would it take to make you try giving elves a chance in your games?

I and many others see a lot of games about dwarves and not much else, i dont just talk about this website but the whole indie industry. And at the same time races like elves get nothing at all, you cannot find a single elf game anywhere (and before you find me some random unfinished demo think about a game you would enjoy).

I just cannot understand why only developpers love dwarves that much and all hate elves. How come everyone is  thinking in the exact same way?

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woodsmoke is making this game in their free time for fun and i really love their artstyle and creativity. If you want an elf game so badly, go make one yourself or fund it instead of harassing indie devs who owe you nothing. Let them enjoy their artistic freedom.

he was just chatting with someone why do you attack him like this?

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you know? the fact that the messaged u sent was on his perspective and your account is created 1 hour ago, you wont fool anyone this is a fake account

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I like the dwarf's character design! He has a lot of personality

Can't you just host a game jam about elves? I feel like if you did and promoted it here people would probably join and make some games for it.

i'm tempted to start one but i doubt anyone would participate since devs are terrified of using elves and i wouldn't know how to advertize it properly

Are u talking on his perspective?

I too adore elves and i wish i could change things but making a game jam seems quite complicated when you have no connections, and yeah OP makes a valid point

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Off topic but Why are you keep making new accounts? Can't you just stay in one account?  (We know it's you btw)

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exactly! this guy is lit talking on the owners perspective 

you look like a bot to me, i'm sure you're not a person.

You like being talked to like that?

Well no except  am not one, can u explain the fact that the account was created one hour before ur post in here and that you are active on in here plus u abswered SLE in the perspective of the owner

because we are in the general channel, the one most new users go to i guess and this topic caught my attention, I didn't look when it was made i just checked it out and spoke my mind. And I do agree with OP, other people surely do but I will not have it be called a bot because of what i believe or do.

What about the fact that now Martin isnt responding and that when speaking to SLE you spoke in his perspective?

i'm not OP,  the fact i agree with him doesn't mean i'm him. You are talking to a person and I won't take it to have you pretend i'm a bot or something

I aint the first person to say you are a bot btw

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You know, I think this user is probably neurodivergent with a special interest in Elves, and believes that by making multiple accounts they can drum up more interest for Elves, as these accounts might "show" potential developers that more people are interested in Elves.

I'm a bit saddened by it honestly. I wish they'd just do away with all the different accounts and just keep one to talk about Elves and share their love and ideas with everyone. I'm also sad that they're bashing Dwarves, who have great potential to live alongside Elves.

It's just so Racist.

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He did show up on the Discord to ask about how to create a game jam, but it looks like he's abandoned the idea because it'd take too much work.

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@Itch.io devs, please add “elf game” to the spam filter

i'm gonna ignore all the weird people here and say what i want to say. We see that nobody wants these dwarven game, they are not being bought, played or even looked at closely. I see more and more shrug when they dwarfs or even complain. Eventually people will stop making those when they see how many players it alienates and the industry will be better as a result.

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There are three elf aficionados here now! You three should create a gamedev team to make an elf game.

you don't have to do elves. there's lots of other cool races. such as DRAGONS!